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| Arjan van't Veer
Legal Advisor at the Dutch National
Lottery |
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Arjan
van't Veer acts as legal adviser to the Netherlands' largest
national lottery, SENS, and has conducted several research projects
on Internet gambling. FairestCasinos.com welcomes its first European
guest, Arjan van't Veer, into the Hall of Fame. |
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| How did you get where you are today? |
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"It was obvious that someone
banged the drums, but not as loud as it seemed."
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I was born in 1968 in the Dutch province, Zeeland,
one of the most interesting parts of the Netherlands.
After I finished high school, I went to Rotterdam to
study economics at Erasmus University, Rotterdam. After
two years, I switched to Erasmus University Law School.
I studied criminal law, and got a law degree in 1992.
Working as an assistant for one of the department's
professors, I got involved in a study of the Dutch gambling
market. After some desk research, I was asked to start
Ph.D. research. Being a jurist, I did research into
the legal aspects of the Dutch gambling policy. I finished
my thesis in June 1998.
I took my first steps on the Internet in early 1993,
and I was immediately fascinated, although it was only
in black an white and very static. New software, new
browsers, and powerful computers made it only better.
I looked at the developments in the interactive field
as well as I looked at the traditional gaming market.
I found it striking to see what was going on. In a way,
my Gambling Corner was created to make clear what was
going on. After several presentations and an article
in a major Dutch legal magazine, I was asked to do a
study into interactive gaming; a study conducted by
the Dutch gaming licensees and the Dutch Gaming Control
Board. Recently the Dutch government announced that
the findings of this study will be used to implement
Internet gambling in Holland.
My job at the Dutch national lottery, SENS, is to look
for strategic developments and how to implement them
into our business. Internet gaming is a very big part
of this.
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| What kinds of changes do you perceive
in the American online gaming industry? |
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"If he (the player) wants
individual games or multiplayer-type games, he will
get it."
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The ongoing discussion about the Kyl/McCollum Bill
is, in my view, an example of making new technology
a legal issue. Why state beforehand that everything
should be forbidden? What 's up with maintaining such
rules? Having a legal background myself, I dare to state
that legal people create their own world, which is in
many cases not even close to reality... Visiting various
conferences about Internet gambling in the United States
made it clear to me that there is still a long way to
go, even when the proposed bills come into action. And
as always with these judicial and political questions,
everyone was trying to maintain a possibility to escape
the rules. By doing so, it was obvious that someone
banged the drums, but not as loud as it seemed.
One more thing about the US is that I see big, call
them traditional, manufacturers of lottery and casino
equipment (Gtech, Ballys) and casino operators now looking
at the Internet market. And they are big spenders...
These are the ones that will rock the boat in the end.
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| What are your comments on Australia's
transformation? |
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| The various territories have shown
that you can either have an aversive reaction to online
gaming activities -like in the USA- or you can be more
pragmatic. Why not try to set up a system in which both
players and beneficiaries are safeguarded? (Although I
question if players from Belgium, Iceland, Brazil, or
Japan will be attracted by an initiative from Down Under.)
Translating sites into a more regionalized supply of games
will, of course, help. The Australian attitude toward
Internet gambling shows some guts and is surely an example
for many other countries. (The word 'nambling' was invented
by an Australian!) |
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| What's in store for Europe? |
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"Being a jurist myself,
I can say that it is strange to have no visible
place where a 'crime' took place."
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More and more governments are realizing the fact that
the Internet is here to stay. Internet is getting more
accepted, cheaper, more reliable. After some successful
tryouts of the Finnish national lottery, Veikkaus; the
Swedes followed that example. And now the Austrians
operate their Web Club and we, as Dutch, are getting
the opportunity... all well-regulated, all well-equipped,
all within the scope of national gaming policies and
regulations. This means that there will be no 'cross
border' selling; meaning that the Internet games will
only be available for inhabitants of a certain country.
Veikkaus, for instance, works with social security numbers
and Austrian bank accounts. Protection of privacy and
the use of secure payment systems is absolutely required.
In a way, the European Commission is asking that as
well. They did not yet state any rules about Internet
gaming. I think it will take some time before any action
will be undertaken. This does not mean that they are
not focused on e-commerce and tax problems!
Within Europe there is, of course, Pluslotto from Liechtenstein,
and many other examples like the www books in the
United Kingdom, the Channel Islands, or Gibraltar, (The
Aussies included the Commonwealth seem to take the lead!!),
casinos in Aland, horse betting in Germany, etc. And
everyone knows that with a little effort, you can find
the most beautiful games within your own part of the
Net, although those are less regulated or not regulated.
Within a few months, I think you will see that legal
action will be taken to close down these kinds of activities.
In some cases to end infringements on trademarks or
games of existing lottery operators, in others to end
more serious cases of consumer fraud. You have to take
into account that the attorney generals of several countries
are eager to set some examples.
As I stated earlier, the Internet will become more
and more regionalized. Languages, currencies, prohibitive
acts, licensing policies, etc. will create separate
regions on the Net, at least regarding e-commerce and
gaming activities. It will take some time to reconnect
these various regions.
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| Why is the Dutch Antilles so popular
for gaming enterprises? |
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| Many of the online casinos are indeed
based in the Dutch Antilles. No wonder, since the government
of the Antilles allows such activities. Along with the
sunny weather in the Antilles, there is a sunny tax climate
as well! A so-called Landsverordening (Lands Act) makes
licensed offshore betting activities possible. The Antilles
is an independent part of the Dutch Kingdom, at least
concerning the making and implementation of laws. So in
this respect, the government of the islands is responsible
for what goes on. Sites claiming that the Dutch government,
the government in the European part of the Kingdom that
is, is controlling or monitoring the gaming activities
are, in a way, giving exact information. |
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| What big changes do you predict
in online gaming? |
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I think the biggest change will come as soon as major
casino operators (Las Vegas and Atlantic City) and lotteries
like, for instance, the Powerball organization or the
National Lottery in the UK go online. Their names will
be known by the public, and will be trusted more than,
with all due respect, operators working under very exotic
names from very exotic parts of the world. Besides that,
existing operators will be able to use their marketing
skills and knowledge to reach the player. They can provide
them with high level services, cheap devices to enable
the customers to play their favorite games at any time
and at any place, exiting TV shows, and names of famous
people. The player will be attracted by all this; he
will get what he wants. If he wants individual games
or multiplayer-type games, he will get it. These existing
operators will benefit from the fact that they will
always be able to award enormous prizes and millions
and millions in jackpots.
Just like many newspapers and broadcasting stations
join the top five Internet search engines and information
sites, you will see these entertainment companies on
these kinds of sites. Regarding the European situation,
I think that accessing the Internet will get easier.
I think we will see new things like a hybrid TV/PC set.
I don't know if it will be like Web TV, but I am sure
there will be some multifunctional TVs or PCs. And -a
positive thing for Dutchmen- I think it will become
much cheaper and faster to access the Internet as well.
Regarding Internet payment systems, I expect a lot of
smart cards.
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| Is regulation possible? |
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| It will remain difficult to regulate
the Internet. But I think when legislators join forces
with technicians, even law enforcement in a virtual world
will be possible but different. Being a jurist myself,
I can say that it is strange to have no visible place
where a 'crime' took place. There are also difficulties
determining at what point in time something took place.
In a way, the precautions that casino operators are now
taking (e.g. getting the same hand of cards back when
a player ends his Internet connection on purpose) is already
a form of regulation. And I think digital certificates
from so-called Trusted Third Parties will also enhance
regulation. You should also remember that when existing
lottery organizations join the Internet, their supply
is regulated. Anything they do will be monitored by a
national gaming board or the national parliament at least.
Isn't that also a way of regulating things? |
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